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    Phoenix & my plans for 2011

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    Burnout
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    Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Burnout on Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:23 pm

    Sorry everyone, I got behind this week with Phoenix and updates, but...good news...Phoenix WILL BE DONE by Sunday with all three tracks available. I am finalizing the handling and we can test it around 7pm ET Saturday night if you all are wanting to.

    As far as me leaving the #2 for 2011, I'm willing to try at least one more time as a driver to administrate the race fully...however that won't happen until Race #3 as I will miss the Phoenix race on April 3rd. The next race I compete in, I will completely admin the race only getting feedback from Burn and Shyguy about penalties among other things (to be discussed). I want to keep racing in hopes that the racing will improve.....we can do this everyone!!!!!!
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Shyguy on Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:08 am

    When you are next on we need to talk about adjusting the Daytona results.. having watched those GWC's I thought they were really unfair on many drivers.
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Burn on Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:50 am

    Shyguy, 1. I disagree with you because you were the one who I initiated the GWCs and kept doing them over. They were on your watch and I feel you're trying to cover up from them.

    2. All results should be final when the RESULTS section comes out.
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Shyguy on Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:39 pm

    They are by the RULEBOOKS watch. Now the rulebook will be changed. But for now, at least a review of the GWC's would be nice cos I am sure many would agree they were poor.
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  simmser696 on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:18 pm



    Hope I’m not being biased Burn but Shyguy is right the GWC's were unfair especially to me I’m not trying to be cocky but i had a strategy that got me a rookie up to 4th by the final caution which was called for no reason by burn because all he wanted to was cheat the system and use the holes in the rulebook to his advantage at the expense of me and a few other racers, we should count the real race results the 200 laps of the 500 not the GWC results, because the people like me who had a GREAT RACE PLAN got screwed over by the GWC.

    P.S People we all need to respect the cautions and stop jumping cautions and using incorrect positions it’s not fair to the people who want to drive.
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Burn on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:30 pm

    CHEATING THE SYSTEM? IT WAS A LEGITIMATE CAUTION! That was your first ever start, you're talking giberish to me. You think you know it all? You know nothing simms. So stop putting in your two-sense and stop blaming me for crap. You're only protecting your friend as you do ALWAYS!
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  simmser696 on Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:52 pm

    Burn im not biased Shyguy may be a friend of mine and ofcourse if he was a bad admin I would say something just like I would with anyone friend or foe, but when Shyguy does admin a race without you there is a much better quality to the races I know it may not have been important point races it was just testing but becuase of his good admining im racing SCARTS to be honest Burn if you had admined the first races I did I probably would have been scared off because youre so hostile towards everyone. Also Burn that caution you called may well have acctually been legitimate but you cant not say that having that rule did ruin the race for many people thats why I am in favour of a rulebook change I dont care if Shyguy is backing it or not I just want fair and fun racing and im sure you do. When we race at Phoenix lets see how much better the racing will be like without you admining.
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Burn on Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:20 pm

    Simms, you're being very biased you can say it all you want and I won't belive you
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Lanz#46 on Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:31 am

    changing the result brings nothing since last yel was very unfair too! i remember a car that was overtaking at least 2-3 cars when yel was out! also another one jumped every restart and did not got penalized for that!
    Just skip that whole GWC thing for next races and dont allow yel´s during last 5 laps! its very hard to drive fair when everyone around does wtf he wants, thats why i dont wait anymore when i hit a wall and someone crashes into me, because nobody waits for me! i already said that few months ago: you guys have to be merciless otherwise it will change nothing because they know that they can do a lot of unfair stuff without getting penalized! i like the racing here but its just not working how it is now! also 2.5 hours are to long for a race! its not a big problem for me since i can go in wtf mood Very Happy but for others! a lot of guys dont play for that fact! maybe you guys can set a time limiter, i think 1-1.5 hour race is enought! i know its a heck of work to organize such a nice cup but you guys doing no favor to yourself! i feel kinda sad for burnout that he has to drive as safety car is his own cup but that saves a lot of problems! but for sure not all of them since he can´t see everthing! i realized that when shy was safety car since he warned me due to mistake and i even let everyone pass! so im sure he didnt see the whole picture their! also i saw that a lot of players played that kind of cup befor, i expected more from them! i have to say it clearly, that guys seemed to be the worst! i don´t want to offend nobody, i just want to make the racing better wich i think in the end is good for everyone!
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Shyguy on Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:34 am

    Yes there will be no GWC's in coming races, the only situation in which you would get a restart with 2 laps to go is if there is 5 laps to go and the caution comes out. If the caution is called in the final five laps, the field is frozen at the time of caution as per the rulebook.. no racing back to the line cos people might get confused, slow up, and lose positions.

    I'm all for a time limit, I will definitely try and get everything sorted for Phoenix much earlier this time (such as community server etc.)

    And as for being the safety car, at Phoenix, a much smaller track, I reckon I will be able to avoid things like that Lanz as I will be able to see numbers etc. much clearer, for instance I penalized Charter for jumping a restart (which he did do), but he then gave back the positions which I didnt see, but I still penalized him.

    As for the GWC's.. I guess since it was a green flag run of reasonable length any poor restarts would have had time to be overcome.. but hey I guess its ultimately up to Burnout.

    Oh and also, we wont be stopping in the grid BEFORE pit anymore, only after. This should save time and avoid confusion.

    I will answer the other stuff later, since I have to rush. But yeah, also with the introduction of BRAKING/Throttling off in the corners at every corner in Phoenix (like Homestead last year), it should be much more enjoyable for everyone.
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Lanz#46 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:03 pm

    Shyguy wrote:
    Oh and also, we wont be stopping in the grid BEFORE pit anymore, only after. This should save time and avoid confusion.

    mmh! i don´t think that is the best idea to safe time! at least we should try it befor! people who are in front can reach pits way earlier then others, it depends on what position leader is on track if caution comes out!
    and can you please announce when rising star cup races are, since i have no plan and i don´t like to wait and realize after, that somehow there is no race like last week! a lot of players waited there!
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    Re: Phoenix & my plans for 2011

    Post  Shyguy on Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:27 pm

    Yes, perhaps we will create a full season schedule.

    Don't worry Lanz, the pits wont be opened until the field is fully bunched up. No one will have an advantage going onto pitroad - just we will have to make sure the leader paces slowly so we dont waste laps.

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